CONTESTED GROUND: How Australia is walking the China and United States relations tightrope

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By: Robyn Tongol

In this episode of the Contested Ground podcast, hosts Major General (Ret’d) Dr Marcus Thompson and Liam Garman unpack the latest news and events contributing to national security in Australia.

In this episode of the Contested Ground podcast, hosts Major General (Ret’d) Dr Marcus Thompson and Liam Garman unpack the latest news and events contributing to national security in Australia.

They begin the podcast discussing Exercise Talisman Sabre 2025, including how important these kinds of joint military training activities are for the interoperability between Western nations and the certainty of covert surveillance being carried out by adversaries.

The pair then discuss the recent visit to the People’s Republic of China by Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and the geopolitical tightrope he must be walking between trading with the PRC and the AUKUS military commitments with the United States.

They wrap up the podcast discussing the recent and very public Qantas hack, as well as the potential flow-on impacts of the cyber security breach.

Enjoy the podcast,
The Contested Ground team

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Episode 10: PODCAST: Aerobatics, military aviation and Australian air shows, with Paul Bennet
Episode 9: CONTESTED GROUND: Australia and the West must ask themselves new questions in the face of the modern world, with Robbin Laird
Episode 8: PODCAST: Black Hawk capability, B-21 bomber debate, and upcoming budget
Episode 7: PODCAST: Supermarine Spitfire, warbird aviation and modern aerial innovation, with Keith Russell
Episode 6: PODCAST: Bushmaster PMV funding, long-range strike expansion and cyber defence
Episode 5: PODCAST: Space Command workforce expansion and operationalising the domain, with Major General Gregory Novak AM
Episode 4: CONTESTED GROUND: The Defence budget, inflationary pressures and domestic information warfare
Episode 3: SPOTLIGHT: Maritime sustainment, mission-ready maintenance and resilient fleet capability, with Serco’s David Astbury
Episode 2: PODCAST: Anzac Day reflections, veteran support reform and ADF workforce trends, with Minister Matt Keogh