PODCAST: AUKUS, China and Australia’s defence industrial future, with former prime minister Scott Morrison

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By: Robyn Tongol

Australia’s strategic environment is changing rapidly, but defence procurement and industry must move faster to keep pace.

Australia’s strategic environment is changing rapidly, but defence procurement and industry must move faster to keep pace.

Speaking with Defence Connect news editor Robert Dougherty, former Australian prime minister Scott Morrison discusses the five-year evolution of AUKUS, Australia’s defence industrial base, China’s economic and strategic influence, critical minerals and the need to accelerate defence procurement.

Morrison argues that AUKUS is already delivering tangible benefits, with US submarines operating from Australia and investment progressing at Henderson to support US, UK and Australian submarine operations.

 
 

The pair also discuss US submarine production constraints and Australia’s plans to develop a tier-one domestic defence prime.

Morrison highlights that Australia should maintain trade with China where appropriate while strengthening economic and strategic resilience through closer cooperation with aligned countries.

The conversation turns to critical minerals, with Morrison arguing China’s use of supply-chain leverage is accelerating investment in alternative sources. Australia, he says, has an important role as an extractor, while processing capabilities can be distributed across allied countries, including the US, Japan and South Korea.

Looking towards the next decade, Morrison calls for faster defence decision making and procurement because systems designed for the post-Cold War environment are no longer suited to today’s strategic conditions.

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The Defence Connect team

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