SPOTLIGHT: From training target to tactical edge, with QinetiQ Australia’s Andrew Forbes and Cher Min Teo

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By: QinetiQ

In this episode of the Defence Connect Spotlight podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by Andrew Forbes, chief growth officer, and Cher Min Teo, campaign director for capability assurance, training and simulation at QinetiQ Australia, to discuss the role of Australia's sovereign test and evaluation capabilities and the role it plays in sharpening Australia's defence capability.

In this episode of the Defence Connect Spotlight podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by Andrew Forbes, chief growth officer, and Cher Min Teo, campaign director for capability assurance, training and simulation at QinetiQ Australia, to discuss the role of Australia's sovereign test and evaluation capabilities and the role it plays in sharpening Australia's defence capability.

With Australia at a pivotal moment in its defence evolution – shaped by the 2023 Defence Strategic Review, the 2024 National Defence Strategy and Integrated Investment Program, and the Defence Industry Development Strategy – the conversation explores how test, evaluation, and mission rehearsal environments are becoming central to future force readiness.

Together, Forbes and Teo unpack the role QinetiQ Australia is playing in advancing sovereign capability, with a particular focus on the Phoenix uncrewed aerial system. Originally developed as a training target, Phoenix has evolved into a versatile platform supporting the Army, Navy, and Air Force in simulating threats, validating combat systems, and refining tactics.

Having successfully completed its 500th flight, the system is not only a story of Australian design and manufacturing success, but also of international collaboration, with users spanning Singapore, New Zealand, Thailand, Korea, and Germany.

In this episode, the discussion also highlights how lessons from Phoenix feed directly into broader programs, from guided weapons to autonomous systems, ensuring the ADF remains prepared for the challenges of a fast-changing global security environment.

Enjoy the podcast,
The Defence Connect Team

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Episode 10: PODCAST: Black Hawk capability, B-21 bomber debate, and upcoming budget
Episode 9: PODCAST: Supermarine Spitfire, warbird aviation and modern aerial innovation, with Keith Russell
Episode 8: PODCAST: Bushmaster PMV funding, long-range strike expansion and cyber defence
Episode 7: PODCAST: Space Command workforce expansion and operationalising the domain, with Major General Gregory Novak AM
Episode 6: CONTESTED GROUND: The Defence budget, inflationary pressures and domestic information warfare
Episode 5: SPOTLIGHT: Maritime sustainment, mission-ready maintenance and resilient fleet capability, with Serco’s David Astbury
Episode 4: PODCAST: Anzac Day reflections, veteran support reform and ADF workforce trends, with Minister Matt Keogh
Episode 3: SPOTLIGHT: Open-source growth across defence and national security, with SUSE CMO Margaret Dawson
Episode 2: CONTESTED GROUND: Shipping, supply chains and Australia’s exposure to a volatile system, with UNSW’s Professor Douglas Guilfoyle and Associate Professor Daniel Prior

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