SPOTLIGHT: Subs may be the centrepiece – but infrastructure, workforce and sovereign capability will decide the outcome, with Stantec Australia’s Chris Waywell, Rob Sansbury and Robert Fogel

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By: Stantec

The AUKUS partnership represents one of the most ambitious defence industrial undertakings in modern history, and in this episode, host Steve Kuper is joined by Chris Waywell, Rob Sansbury and Robert Fogel of Stantec Australia to explore what it will really take to make it work.

The AUKUS partnership represents one of the most ambitious defence industrial undertakings in modern history, and in this episode, host Steve Kuper is joined by Chris Waywell, Rob Sansbury and Robert Fogel of Stantec Australia to explore what it will really take to make it work.

While public attention has largely focused on the acquisition of nuclear-powered submarines, our panel argues that the true measure of success lies deeper – within the complementary infrastructure and industrial ecosystems required to enable, sustain and secure these capabilities over decades.

For Australia, this is nothing short of a generational shift. Building a nuclear-ready enterprise demands far more than platforms. It requires significant investment in shipyards, robust regulatory and safety frameworks, and, critically, a highly skilled workforce. From engineers and nuclear specialists to project managers and trades, the human element will ultimately define the pace, resilience and credibility of delivery.

The discussion also turns to the broader AUKUS partnership, with the United Kingdom and the United States needing to expand and adapt their own industrial bases to support a truly trilateral model. Increasing production capacity, harmonising standards and streamlining technology transfer will be essential, as interoperability evolves from an operational concept into an industrial necessity.

Layered over this is the challenge of sovereign resilience. Secure, diversified supply chains and deeper collaboration across industry, academia and allied partners will be key to building enduring capability.

This is a long-term endeavour. As the panel highlights, sustained commitment across political and economic cycles will be vital if AUKUS is to fulfil its potential – catalysing advanced manufacturing, boosting national productivity and underpinning a new era of strategic industry.

In this episode, we examine how building the backbone of AUKUS will ultimately determine whether the partnership delivers on its promise.

Enjoy the podcast,
The Defence Connect Spotlight team

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Listen to previous episodes of the Defence Connect podcast:

Episode 11: CONTESTED GROUND: Apathy, complacency and the ‘Lucky Country’, Australia’s predicament is entirely self-inflicted, with Ben Dullroy
Episode 10: SPECIAL EDITION PODCAST: 125 years of the Royal Australian Navy and Australian Army
Episode 9: CONTESTED GROUND: Australian resilience during a crisis and sovereign industrial capability
Episode 8: CONTESTED GROUND: From Tehran to Sydney – why war could reshape Australian property
Episode 7: SPOTLIGHT: Inside Australia’s AUKUS industrial transformation, with Honeywell Aerospace Australia senior director Lee Davis
Episode 6: CONTESTED GROUND: War without borders – the disinformation threat arriving in Australia
Episode 5: THE PROGRESS REPORT: The mission to make military children visible
Episode 4: PODCAST: Righting the ship, balancing the force, with Senator James Paterson, shadow minister for defence
Episode 3: SPOTLIGHT: Modern electronic warfare, spectrum congestion and the Australian defence ecosystem, with DEWC Services’ Rian Whitby
Episode 2: CONTESTED GROUND: The intersection of finance, organised crime, terrorism and foreign interference, with Keith Bulfin

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