PODCAST: Demystifying deterrence and its role in Australia’s future, with the National Institute for Deterrence Studies

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By: Robyn Tongol

In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by Natalie Treloar, Dr Carl Rhodes and Christine Leah, PhD, of the National Institute for Deterrence Studies.

In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by Natalie Treloar, Dr Carl Rhodes and Christine Leah, PhD, of the National Institute for Deterrence Studies.

The group discuss a range of topics, including:

  • The evolution of deterrence theory throughout the Cold War and in the post-Cold War world as we face an era of great power competition.
  • Australia’s history of using deterrence-focused platforms without a coherent strategy of deterrence despite the plans outlined in the Defence Strategic Review and National Defence Strategy.
  • The future of Australia’s deterrence capabilities and how to expand the public understanding of deterrence as a “whole-of-nation” effort with benefits for all Australians.

Enjoy the podcast,
The Defence Connect team


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