PODCAST: Defence Estate Audit, Afghanistan aid and unrest in the United States

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By: Robyn Tongol

In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, Stephen Kuper is joined by Robert Dougherty and Bethany Alvaro to unpack recent news of Australian industry developments, humanitarian assistance, US domestic unrest and the shifting foundations of global power.

In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, Stephen Kuper is joined by Robert Dougherty and Bethany Alvaro to unpack recent news of Australian industry developments, humanitarian assistance, US domestic unrest and the shifting foundations of global power.

The discussion opens with Australian defence industry news, including Ferra Engineering’s latest agreement with Boeing to support delivery of the High Altitude Anti-Submarine Warfare Weapon Capability for the P-8A Poseidon fleet, reinforcing Australia’s role within global defence supply chains.

Attention then turns to EOS Defence Systems and its evolving international strategy amid concerns over limited domestic support for counter-uncrewed aerial system capabilities, with analysis of the company’s growing footprint in Europe and the Middle East through a new partnership with Milrem Robotics.

 
 

The team also examines the Defence Estate audit, which has confirmed the partial or full divestment of 68 defence sites nationwide. Key locations discussed include Victoria Barracks in Sydney, HMAS Penguin, RAAF Base Williams at Laverton, and several sites across Western Australia and South Australia, alongside debate over reinvestment priorities and future force structure.

The panel weighs in too on Australia’s announcement of an additional $50 million in aid to Afghanistan, bringing total assistance since 2021 to $310 million.

The conversation then shifts to the United States, where recent unrest linked to immigration enforcement has reignited debate around the Insurrection Act, martial law and the limits of federal authority. The team unpacks constitutional constraints, historical usage, media freedom concerns and the potential political ramifications ahead of upcoming US elections.

The episode concludes with a broader strategic discussion on what it means to be a “serious middle power” in an era of intensifying competition. The panel questions whether Australia’s economic resilience, industrial base, military capability and capacity for power projection are sufficient to sustain its self-image, particularly as the rules-based global order continues to erode.

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Listen to previous episodes of the Defence Connect podcast:

Episode 11: CONTESTED GROUND: Australia and the West must ask themselves new questions in the face of the modern world, with Robbin Laird
Episode 10: PODCAST: Black Hawk capability, B-21 bomber debate, and upcoming budget
Episode 9: PODCAST: Supermarine Spitfire, warbird aviation and modern aerial innovation, with Keith Russell
Episode 8: PODCAST: Bushmaster PMV funding, long-range strike expansion and cyber defence
Episode 7: PODCAST: Space Command workforce expansion and operationalising the domain, with Major General Gregory Novak AM
Episode 6: CONTESTED GROUND: The Defence budget, inflationary pressures and domestic information warfare
Episode 5: SPOTLIGHT: Maritime sustainment, mission-ready maintenance and resilient fleet capability, with Serco’s David Astbury
Episode 4: PODCAST: Anzac Day reflections, veteran support reform and ADF workforce trends, with Minister Matt Keogh
Episode 3: SPOTLIGHT: Open-source growth across defence and national security, with SUSE CMO Margaret Dawson
Episode 2: CONTESTED GROUND: Shipping, supply chains and Australia’s exposure to a volatile system, with UNSW’s Professor Douglas Guilfoyle and Associate Professor Daniel Prior